So this means theres another version, not open to the public? sounds interesting.
Or is this the next version you are talking about?
If so is it going to be a commercial version.

Obviously new to programming i could use info on this, even though youv'e said you can't say much. Maybe an estimated release date/month or year, if commercial how much! And as much info you can give about the changes. Appetites need wetting after-all.
I mean am i trying to learn something here that won't be of any use in the new version? Gulp!

As for giving up! I don't want to, but its getting so frustrating.
You are giving me code and only a few lines at a time, its not like my requests require 100's of lines of code that i would have to wade through, and its that whats doing my nut in. It should be easy to follow and understand.
When i learnt the 3D language, i understood the logic instantly and after 2 weeks i had gone through a comprehensive tutorial and could build fully interactive 3D environments, with all the possible options included. With programming, there is something missing, which is preventing me from getting to grasps with the principal. The way things are setup! Variables, commands, on which page and how and why? Why and how info gets passed from one "card" to another.

As for debugging, its getting more complex by the minute.
I really don't think you realise at what point i am finding this hard to get. My only fear is actually getting bored before i advance, which will obviously take the fun away from the whole experience.

I have gone over the guide and the pdf files onsite and can't see any reference to debugging anywhere. I have googled debug in hypernext and still can't find any info.
As mentioned in another thread, debug for me is <debug> at the top of the page and go.

And don't appologise for repeating yourself, but please explain how to go about debugging.

LOL, the pen and paper approach? I guess i could draw a few squares on paper and join them up with lines but it would do me no good at all. I wouldn't know why i am doing what i am doing and for what purpose.

I got so close to getting this done, there is the more solid external data save to setup, get this count thing working and thats it. (except the final graphics).
I am sure for someone who knows how to program that this whole project should have been finished the day they started.
I think i am going to give up. I can't follow your guides, and i don't get half of what you are saying.
I have spent too much time on trying to get this to work and the lack of tutorials and info on the net doesn't help.

I understand that you have a life and can't devote yourself to this (me, my project) fulltime.
I'll give it another 48 hours and if i can't find the info i need to get it working then, im sorry but i will remove HN. I have given it my full attention and i am not asking you to do the job for me, but your explanations don't actually explain anything or help me learn. And spending days on what should be a simple maths problem, just isn't right.

The only thing i can think of is that you (time allowing and the mood to help) take a look at the project and see what the hell i am doing wrong. At least that way i will see what you have done and have a reference to learn by.
Damn it shouldn't be this complicated to do maths and store the info.

Excellent, and i stand corrected .

Honestly i wasn't having a go i just found it odd.

secondly how do i remove tybite software at the heading of the software template i click before the full program run in already build software

I was curious about this to. I think he mean't the title of the splash screen.
Because from what i can see there is no possible way of removing 'Tigabyte sofware' from the splash screen title. Although i can i understand why its there. I see it being a bit of a problem and misleading when opening the final project.
When opening a stack with the player it has the players info for tigabyte. Cool, justified and needed.
But when opening an exe file people will see 'Tigabyte Software' at the top and automatically think that my program was built by you (even if you did do most of the work to help me get it to work).

You said:

The top of the window can be changed by editing the name of the card - use the "Creator Properties" on the right-hand side of the Creator.

This can't be done for the splash screen. As we can only call up the splash screen to edit the content.
For both Personal and business purposes i think i'd prefer my company name displayed there.

Is there nothing that can be done to work around this?
I honestly see this as vital if you want business's to start using your software. I am not trying to be arkward, i find it hard to see business's use this for professional software creation and distribution if your name is forced onto their final products.

Yeah sure for someone like me who is starting out maybe, but that doesn't change the fact i would prefer to see my name rather than yours.

Thanks for that Malkom,
I spent the best part yesterday evening trying to get it to work, which eventually i did. This morning i i have tried to get the info to pass to the next new page created but i can't see where i'm going wrong. It keeps creating a blank form ready for data entry and won't calculate the total times from the previous forms.

You wrote about the decount and that i should store field 2. Could you please elaborate, because i'm a little lost again.

Saying that, i thought that maybe the info wasn't being passed because it can't store the info correctly so i decided to look at the data options and the other threads.

I will be adding a new post in that section after this.

Within the data store area ( i believe to be used for the end product) are a few files that i can't open, no extension. except  .DS_Store logic which i don't know what to open with either. On testing i now find this file in the Pictures folder.

vvpict_2_3_1

What is this exactly and how do i open it. Can it be removed if not needed.

My reason for this question is that on looking through the the guide to find out more for image saving (canvas graphics, files graphics and image banks) and testing, i am wondering if the above file has appeared in the data/pictures folder because of this or because of the placeholder image on the canvas.

I am basicly trying to get the button to save to the Data/Pictures folder without displaying the option to save elsewhere. Is my code on the right track and could this be the reason for the above file appearing in there.

If you have any thoughts on the following then feel free to help me again.  

I have one canvas with three independant button controls.

The 'new' button with
local fname

CanvasLoadAsk(1,fname,0)the save button with
local fname

ImageCanvasToBank(1,2,0)Is this right?

On the other hand the delete button i can't work out through the guide.
I want to be able to remove it from the card/page and from the internal Data storing place. Is that possible?
The reason for this is that i want to be able to run the exe file directly from a 4gig usb data device, so as to stock the info directly to the USB device. (Sorry i only know what they call it in French). Or am i barking up the wrong tree?  :|

Take 2:
Iv'e just found this,

Clears the image from the specifed image bank so freeing up memory. This also sets the image bank status to invalid.

   ImageBankClear(bid)

obviously i only want to remove the particular image for that page, but still have the option of replacing it. what happens will a new image bank be created?

Ok! as mentioned in my last post, i thought it was down to me. Yup! Sure was. Because of my confusion amongst the field names and texts names and the fact that i just started to build on top of the original Book HN without giving it any thought. I found myself adding components, changing my mind, removing them and the code was a real mess. So i decided to clean it up so that a text name corresponds with its field name, obviously doing the necessary to make sure i kept track of what code came from what button etc so as to build everything tidily and replace the code. I thought it would make it easier to find the problem with everything in order!
And then i broke it, i broke the whole damn thing. What a nightmare! Since the precise time marked on my last post and the time on this one that is the time iv'e spent trying to figure it out.
Thankfully though and after a few hours i managed to sort it all out. Yes, talk about happy!
Along the way i found that i hadn't declared a couple of variables and one even had its space 'comma' between the name and the Var ('name,Var' and not 'nameVar,' ) This led me onto see the difference between the field and the field name and discover other problems for the search and saving etc.
And that maybe, certain components can be outligned black if there is a conflict or something. Not sure on that one though.
There remains just two problems and that is:
1)  i can't see how to make the search return multiple finds. But thats possibly because i haven't looked yet i was just happy with a fully functional drop down search system.
2) i also have a ghost button that just wont go away. It has been deleted, but remains in the card script.
Even with those two small issues, i actually started to see the logic. Sure i have a whole load of questions for you, and i know im gonna do your head in head. But i will save them for another thread and another day.
I have other issues to look at now like maths, what seems to be the built in registration system, password login if possible, saving the imported image to the data/arrays and displaying the saved info into a second page. Clone a card would be handy.

Its 1.45 am and i am going to have a quick 'celebratory' beer, before turning in. Tomorrows going to be a busy day  8-)